Japji Sahib Vichaar Sagar part 1 & 2

I’ve decided to post Giani Thakur Singh ji’s Japji Sahib vichar sagar deep divine meanings of gurbani which required gyani ji close to 80 hours to do the full japji sahib katha which is exteremly deep. This is for actual seekers who are willing to learn depth of gurbani. These are posted from http://www.sikhawareness.com and were translated by Neo.

One more thing, according to Giani Thakur Singh ji a person gains greater benefit from listening to the katha than by just reading it.

you can listen to vast deptness of japji sahib – http://www.gurmatveechar.com/katha.php?k=gts (click present day katha, then giani thakur singh, then japji sahib)

So I have managed with my limited buddi to translate just 1 file out of 81 audio files by gyani discourse in punjabi into my broken english..translations are not fully carbonn copy. I have translated whatever will be exteremely helpful to sangat. Mind you, in course of translation, i also have to make sure this stuff does not confuse the sangat..so i have kept it simple.

1st tape covers vast knowledge of “ikongkar”.

Here is the actual vichar of what ikongkar means:

Sidhas told guru ji – in vedas- there is aom, why did you add “ik” “ong” “kar” and made it “ikongkar”. Guru Ji said – aom means trinity (rajo, tamo, sato guni), is made of akar, okar, makar- akar is rajoguni represents bhrama(creator of world), okar is satogun represents vishnu(preserver) and makar is tamogun repersents shivji(destroyer). Guru ji asked sidhas, in this aom, show me where is vahiguroo who is the creator of these three dieties???

Sidhas all went in silence.

Guru ji further explained – Ik represents advait sidhant (non-duality)and it also break rules like – bhramin caste can only recite aom/ong, khatri can only listen to it but not recite and vaish/shadur caste cannot recite aom or listen. Guru Ji further asked sidhs if wives of bhramin, khatri, vaish/shadur have right to recite/listen aom? Sidh replied- no even they don’t. Guru ji replied and said – then the aom is only for bhramins..that’s why i have added- Ik in front.

Ong represent combination of aom – akar,okar, makar- Rajoguni, ,Satogun, Tamogun.

Kar represents god in nirgun roop (non-existent, inaccessible). Kar is actual karan(cause)/karaj(task) roop of ong. God being in nirgun gave nourishment/power to bhrama (deity) to create this world, vishnu to perserve and shiv ji to destroy.

that’s why i have added- Ik infront which is advait (non-duality), ong – resosance(hound) which creates trinity and kar at the end to represent – God’s actual roop – Nirgun(non-existent, inaccesiable, agam, agochar) and made – Ikongkar like as if rain pours every-where..it’ belongs to everyone…anyone can recite it regardless of race, religion, creed, status… – men, women, children..anyone..because we actually reciting god’s name ultimately…no one has monoply over god.

Guru ji further told sidhas that we only recite one’s god name with no duality, sing his praises only, only talk about one, only worships one, only sevak of one.

Iko Jap iKO Salaihhe ||

Kar Ardh Bin Paichayan, Chaauro Ko Samadho Jo Ongkar painchayan ||

When we recite Ikongkar…it takes our surat(concentration) to upper realms naturally. Yogi sidhas usually recite aom aom to reach upper realms but since they are reciting aom they get darshan(vision) of three devta’s – bhram, vishnu, shiv instead of higher supreme reality. recitation is not complete. It’s only complete if one recites kar with aom or ikong because when we recite kar. It takes us to upper realm in dasam dwara where we get “Atam Anand/Bhram Anand” . There are two types of anand- 1. Bhram anand. 2. Yoga Ananda.. Bhram anand is never ending always infinte anand one gets compare to yoga anand which is temporary after surat goes down…yoga anand disappears. Guru Nanak dev ji wrote kar which has all the parkash.

There are 6 things which vahiguroo give parkash-

Bijli- Lighting
Tare- Star
Suroj- Sun
CHandarama – Moon
Munuk di buddi- Being intellect
Earth- Fire.

Full gurbani from siri guru granth sahib ji came from Ikongkar.

Bij Mantar Sab Ko Gian | (Sukhmani Sahib)
Root mantra gives everyone light of supreme knowledge.

Bij Mantar is – Ikongkar.

Gyani ji also says- not to recite Ikongkar alone because of its intensity..people like us cannot handle it’s intensity..that’s why guru ji added- Ikongkar Satnaam Kartapurkh Nirbhau Nirvair Akaal Morat Ajoni Saibhang Gurparsad Jap Ad Such Jugad Sach Hai Bhi Sach Nanak Hosi Bhi Sach ||

To be continued. This is exteremely deep. This is only first file out 81 files of japji sahib i manage with my limited buddi able to translate gyani ji discourse in punjabi. May Vahiguroo give me bibek buddi and his grace i can try to translate all 81 files of japji sahib in my life as time goes by. I have probably have made many mistakes during course of translation..so bhul chuk maff sangat ji.

tape 2 of 81:

Sidhas said, we understood there are six vaikhyan’s(understanding layers) of Ik. We managed to get all of them except padched roop of ik. Can you please explain us?

Guru Nanak dev Ji further explained:

Ik is free from “sajati” (human race) in other words can’t be hold under that category.

Ik is free from “vijati” (tree, animals, birds, 84 reincarnation of animals, change in evolution) in other words cannot be hold under that category.

Ik is free from “sway gat bhed” . Sidhas asked, how in sway gat bhed out of seed, tree and branches appears. Does whole creation comes out from him like that too and take a form? Guru Ji, said No- in Nirgun form (non transcedent) there is only nirgun non transcedent form nothing else. God does not have hand, eyes, ears but still god listens to everything and everyone, and present every where and see everything and everyone.

Ik is free from “Desh kal vashto”- God does not have any country, he is everywhere. He does not need passport or visa to visit places. Ik is also free from all realms ie- shiv puri, bhram puri, indar puri. Ik is sarab vyapak.

Dasam patasah says:

Ad Ant Eka Avtara Sio Guru Samajho Hamra
Namaskar Tissi Ko Hamri Sagal Parja Ko Ap Savairi ||

Ik is free from “Kaal(time/birth /death)”. He is free from time. He is free from birth/death. Guru Ji said, bhram, vishnu, shiv (aom) is bound within kaal? they are going to go one day even maya is within kaal(time). Why called bhrama, vishnu, shiv – bhrama(God in Nirgun form)? It’s only ik that is outside time(kaal) and free from time. Like for example- sun never stop giving its ray it’s earth that rotated around the sun causing sun set and sun rise.

Ik is free from upadhi like with wind, water moves that is called upadhi(change).

Ik orginal state in nirgun( non-transcedent) when ik decides to transform itself(not fully) into many roops/forms/transcedent state with maya. Maya gives birth to three gunas(attributes) – Rajo Gun , Tamo Gun And Sato Gun. Being with pure sato gun, maya, soul is called Isher(Ishvar).

We(Human) also have all three attributes- rajo gun, tamo gun, not purest sato gun.

Deities are also made of rajo gun, tamo gun, sato gun(purest)ie- akar, okar, makar

Being with full tamo gun and no rajo or sato gun are called daits/rakashs/demons.

Ik made 5 Elements( Water, ether(sky), light(fire), air, earth) out of 5 elements Ik made 25 parkriti.

Human Being has three upadhis(change) – supoan avastha(dream state), jagrath avastha(awakened), sukhopath avastha(dreamless sleep)

“The first avastha(saupon avastha) is when the mind is interacting with sensory information, the second(jagrath avastha) when the senses are generally less active, but the mind is still projecting images and experience in sleep, and the third is dreamless sleep(sukhopath avastha), when the mind is not active but is really more akin to non-consciousness. ”

Isher(ishvar) also have above three upadhis(change) only difference isher upadhis(change) are powerful than human being.

Ist Upadhi in ishvar(isher)- Vairaat ( Jagrath Avastha/awaken state) – Controls all realms, stars, moon, soraj.

Once Arjun asked krishan ji show me your vairaat saroop. Then Krishan showed isher huge saroop in which 7 ethers/sky are consider isher (head), 7 patals are consider his feets, vital force system is consider his nostrils, chand(moon) and sooraj(sun) are considered his eyes. His heart is considered as Vishnu and bhram and shiv are considerd his two hands. All nadis(oceans) are consider his veins and all the mountains are consider his bones and all the nature are considered his praticles(rom).

2nd Upadhi in Ishvar (isher) – Hiran Garb (Supan avastha/dream state). Hiran means parkash(light). The upadhi that gives light while isher is sleeping(supan avastha) is called Hiran Garb.

3rd upadhi in ishvar(isher) is – Abhya Kirat (sukhopat avastha/dreamless state). The upadhi(change) which is present in isher(dreamless state) is called Abhya kirat.

Now God(ik) does not have any of these three states(upadhis). He is above all. If we were to claim god to be in awaken state(jagrath avastha) that means god also has two other upadhis- dream state, dreamless state, that is wrong. Therefore, god(IK) is above all state.


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